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	<title>Comments on: Trading Psychology - Developing a Trader&#8217;s Mindset</title>
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		<title>By: Dean Whittingham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Whittingham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 03:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jayluke,
Your problem with pulling the trigger is common, and a lot of it comes down to understanding what your system is capable of. 

When we first learn to drive a car it is a daunting experience, and we are scared to push the accelerator too hard, and if we learn in a manual, we are hesitant in fully engaging the clutch, de-accelerating, changing gears, diengaging the clutch and so on. 

However as time passes, we learn what we need to learn and driving becomes second nature. In fact most of us can drive without even thinking of what we are doing. But we also know what our limitations are, what we are capable of doing in a car, i.e. speed around corners, reverse parking and so on. My Dad once told me a car is just an extension of your arms and legs. Wise words!

Trading a system will require the same learning process, and eventually you should know what your system is capable of. For example, I know my system has a better than 50% chance, and so when I incur a loss, it is just that, a loss, as expected, as my system tells me it should be. When you know that the next trade has a certain probability of being a loss, you shouldn't have an issue with pulling the trigger.

Of course, we as traders are impatient, and as the great Jamie McIntyre says, we over-estimate what we can achieve in one-year and drastically under-estimate what we can achieve in 5 years.

As Brian said, back-testing, paper trading - 'in real time', are the only ways to know what your system is capable of.

Thanks for posting, and as Brian also said, it takes guts to be honest with yourself - well done.

Best Wishes
Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jayluke,<br />
Your problem with pulling the trigger is common, and a lot of it comes down to understanding what your system is capable of. </p>
<p>When we first learn to drive a car it is a daunting experience, and we are scared to push the accelerator too hard, and if we learn in a manual, we are hesitant in fully engaging the clutch, de-accelerating, changing gears, diengaging the clutch and so on. </p>
<p>However as time passes, we learn what we need to learn and driving becomes second nature. In fact most of us can drive without even thinking of what we are doing. But we also know what our limitations are, what we are capable of doing in a car, i.e. speed around corners, reverse parking and so on. My Dad once told me a car is just an extension of your arms and legs. Wise words!</p>
<p>Trading a system will require the same learning process, and eventually you should know what your system is capable of. For example, I know my system has a better than 50% chance, and so when I incur a loss, it is just that, a loss, as expected, as my system tells me it should be. When you know that the next trade has a certain probability of being a loss, you shouldn&#8217;t have an issue with pulling the trigger.</p>
<p>Of course, we as traders are impatient, and as the great Jamie McIntyre says, we over-estimate what we can achieve in one-year and drastically under-estimate what we can achieve in 5 years.</p>
<p>As Brian said, back-testing, paper trading - &#8216;in real time&#8217;, are the only ways to know what your system is capable of.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting, and as Brian also said, it takes guts to be honest with yourself - well done.</p>
<p>Best Wishes<br />
Dean</p>
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		<title>By: BJ Dibbins</title>
		<link>http://tradingsystem.universalwealthcreation.com/trade-profitably/trading-psychology-developing-a-traders-mindset#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ Dibbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jayluke,

In essence, yes you're right. Just sticking to a backtested and paper traded trading plan should be all that's needed.

But as you've found out yourself, when money is on the table then unwanted emotions such as fear can come in to play as well, especially when things start to turn sour as you said.

We'll start looking at how to control fear in my next post.

Cheers,

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jayluke,</p>
<p>In essence, yes you&#8217;re right. Just sticking to a backtested and paper traded trading plan should be all that&#8217;s needed.</p>
<p>But as you&#8217;ve found out yourself, when money is on the table then unwanted emotions such as fear can come in to play as well, especially when things start to turn sour as you said.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll start looking at how to control fear in my next post.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: jayluke</title>
		<link>http://tradingsystem.universalwealthcreation.com/trade-profitably/trading-psychology-developing-a-traders-mindset#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>jayluke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian ,
thanks for your response ,I suppose it comes down to a trading plan and sticking to it no matter what.
the discipline to back test it and paper trade it . I have read somewhere that if you can't make money when we paper trade what makes us think you can do it when we go live. It is easy when things turn out with any strategy but the real test is when things go sour and what we do to get out of it.
Thanks 
Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian ,<br />
thanks for your response ,I suppose it comes down to a trading plan and sticking to it no matter what.<br />
the discipline to back test it and paper trade it . I have read somewhere that if you can&#8217;t make money when we paper trade what makes us think you can do it when we go live. It is easy when things turn out with any strategy but the real test is when things go sour and what we do to get out of it.<br />
Thanks<br />
Alex</p>
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		<title>By: BJ Dibbins</title>
		<link>http://tradingsystem.universalwealthcreation.com/trade-profitably/trading-psychology-developing-a-traders-mindset#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ Dibbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi jayluke,

Thanks for leaving a comment. It's not always easy to comment when it's to say you're having problems, so good on you for doing so.

There's a great quote that I'm going to use in about two posts time, but I'll post it here for you as it relates to performance anxiety.

"Successful traders accept that they will have losing trades, but these are not a reflection of who they are. Everyone makes mistakes" (from 'The Art of Trading' by Christopher Tate).

You've made a start on your 'fears list', so keep adding to it, and see if you can identify the fears behind each of the issues you're having.

Eg; "I don't feel disciplined because..", "I sometimes freeze because..", "I feel like I'm betting because..", etc.

In Tuesday's post I'm going to start working through how to respond to some of those example fears I listed in this post. Hope you find it useful.

Cheers,

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi jayluke,</p>
<p>Thanks for leaving a comment. It&#8217;s not always easy to comment when it&#8217;s to say you&#8217;re having problems, so good on you for doing so.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a great quote that I&#8217;m going to use in about two posts time, but I&#8217;ll post it here for you as it relates to performance anxiety.</p>
<p>&#8220;Successful traders accept that they will have losing trades, but these are not a reflection of who they are. Everyone makes mistakes&#8221; (from &#8216;The Art of Trading&#8217; by Christopher Tate).</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve made a start on your &#8216;fears list&#8217;, so keep adding to it, and see if you can identify the fears behind each of the issues you&#8217;re having.</p>
<p>Eg; &#8220;I don&#8217;t feel disciplined because..&#8221;, &#8220;I sometimes freeze because..&#8221;, &#8220;I feel like I&#8217;m betting because..&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>In Tuesday&#8217;s post I&#8217;m going to start working through how to respond to some of those example fears I listed in this post. Hope you find it useful.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: jayluke</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayluke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brian,Sean and Dean
thanks to your last post in theTrading System Stock Market Tutorial It is
nice that people like yourself and others continue to help other traders .To
this day I still trade with fear which I should be honest with myself and it
is the lack of discipline to pull the triger either way, I sometimes do
spreads but freeze when to roll or take a hit I feel that I am betting
instead of proper trading.
Maybe it is good to take a break for a couple of weeks to get my focus back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brian,Sean and Dean<br />
thanks to your last post in theTrading System Stock Market Tutorial It is<br />
nice that people like yourself and others continue to help other traders .To<br />
this day I still trade with fear which I should be honest with myself and it<br />
is the lack of discipline to pull the triger either way, I sometimes do<br />
spreads but freeze when to roll or take a hit I feel that I am betting<br />
instead of proper trading.<br />
Maybe it is good to take a break for a couple of weeks to get my focus back.</p>
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